Ok it doesn’t have to be tape, it can be a marker, and extension bar, whatever… just so long as the leaning problem is solved and we don’t continue to use the edge of the table as a leaning point. The difference between leaning from a fixed line on the ground thats 12-18 inches back and leaning from the edge of the table is that the line forces everyone to follow the elbow rule. That is unless your rediculously tall but even then it evens the playing field more than if he were leaning from the edge of the table. Like i said i don’t care how its done, there just has to be a solution to this leaning problem that takes minimal effort on the part of the organizer and referees and is easily governed by the players.
A quick side-note (and an altogether personal opinion). I am very much willing to entertain the idea that a tape line will obviously move people away from the cups. However, in no way will it institute an "elbow" rule being used. Why do I feel that way? Because I’m pretty sure when WBPT used a tape line everyone still leaned their asses off. Hell, I play in a tournament essentially weekly with a tape line thats roughly 12" and I lean like a motherfucker just like I would with WS rules. Do I get as far over? No obviously not. Am I waaay past having my elbow over? absolutely and I stand all of 6’1". Really if you want to keep people to playing an elbow rule you would need to put them so far back it just seems silly to me. Note this argument only extends to preserving an "elbow" rule, not whether a tape line (or whatever line) might change certain perceptions of leaning. Although I could certainly state a bunch of arguments while that would also be less effective than perhaps anticipated this post is not geared towards that.
Ok it doesn’t have to be tape, it can be a marker, and extension bar, whatever… just so long as the leaning problem is solved and we don’t continue to use the edge of the table as a leaning point. The difference between leaning from a fixed line on the ground thats 12-18 inches back and leaning from the edge of the table is that the line forces everyone to follow the elbow rule. That is unless your rediculously tall but even then it evens the playing field more than if he were leaning from the edge of the table. Like i said i don’t care how its done, there just has to be a solution to this leaning problem that takes minimal effort on the part of the organizer and referees and is easily governed by the players.
or we can just learn how to shoot with a lean and drop this ridiculous argument already. That seems easier then just changing rules because you’re unhappy someone is shooting for 4 ft away. With $50k on the line, wouldnt you want to shoot from 4 ft away too? Who cares if it "takes away from the game" – its $50k. Rework your shot, shoot with a lean, and get plain filthy on the table like everyone else does.
ugh. these amatures and their no leaning propaganda. we are all sick of it and we all know the wsobp is one of the greatest yearly events of our lifetime. how bout we do all the critics a favor and take em outside, kick em in the ass, and call it a day before they lose to us all… AGAIN. lift a foot and lean morons.
I love how people against leaning refer to it as a "problem". Deal with it and learn to embrace it. Since I started leaning and going to tournaments pong has went from a pass time while drinking to something I look forward to doing. Yes it’s competitive, but it’s also a good time. Play in a couple organized tournaments and you will forget about elbow rule all together,hopefully……
The difference between leaning from a fixed line on the ground thats 12-18 inches back and leaning from the edge of the table is that the line forces everyone to follow the elbow rule. That is unless your rediculously tall but even then it evens the playing field more than if he were leaning from the edge of the table.
year after year the same arguments keep getting made and the answers are still the same…
^to what you said above: that is rediculous! how can the playing field be leveled by moving people back??? at 5’9 say my arm is 2.5ft long, and someone who is 6’6 has a 3ft long arm… no matter where either of us stand (table or tape line) the taller guy is 6 inches closer. no arguing that, pure and thankfully simple.
like everyone said yesterday/today… this is how we play, it works well, people have a good time at satellites and the world series. adapt to the new rules, or organize your own tournaments with your own rules.
how many people played by world series rules prior to getting involved in competitive organized beerpong… that’s right 0%. i surely didn’t play by these rules, but instead of complaining i adapted b/c i wanted to play in these events and be part of the bpong nation.
Shit!! I’ve never seen anyone lean more than halfway across the table.
how many cups is that guy down by???
6 I believe… i’m real scared of that guy.
not to mention that if his cups weren’t all hit, his gut would be knocking over cups…
didnt he lose this tournament?
didnt he lose this tournament?
yes, however in the spirit of leaning he came out a winner.
how many cups is that guy down by???
6 I believe… i’m real scared of that guy.
not to mention that if his cups weren’t all hit, his gut would be knocking over cups…
in 2 years ive only seen him knock over one cup. Try again…
how many cups is that guy down by???
6 I believe… i’m real scared of that guy.
not to mention that if his cups weren’t all hit, his gut would be knocking over cups…
in 2 years ive only seen him knock over one cup. Try again…
yeah honestly, even i look at that photo and say wow. but it still doesn’t bother me. i’m not worried about what my opponents are doing, i’m worried about what i’m doing. if i hit cups i win, if i don’t hit cups then i go home.
I was at a local NJ satellite tourney and saw the guy pictured above with his long reach and thought dear god! I’m a little over 6 foot and can reach almost half way across the table. Does he have an advantage? Not really. It still takes a certain amount of skill to hit all the cups.
in 2 years ive only seen him knock over one cup. Try again…
yeah, i was way off on this one… played goliath in 4 random practice games in AC. there was definitely no cup knocking.
i loved it though, couldn’t help but laugh at how far he can reach. whatever… we split the 4 games, so super lean or no super lean, everyone has to hit cups to win.
