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  • #20429

    pandemonium2
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    you guys should just cyber on facebook chat or something, lol

    ooh that sounds fun lmao

    #20430

    semccar
    Member

    im used to playing hand rule on an 8 ft…wsobp? ez.

    #20431

    defo
    Member

    hand rule? why dont u just play on a 10 foot table an play leaning? actually would u still have an elbow/hand rule on a 10 ft table? lol..have u been to the WS? if its "EZ" for u, its prob alot "EZ’er" for everyone else cause no one else is distracted crying about it

    #20432

    Has anyone noticed that when someone starts a stupid thread like this, they never reply to it again?..

    haha i have just became a member and this was the first time i checked back on the thread. I had no idea that this was already such a heated debate in the past, and frankly, all your guys comments are very reasonable and to be honest, i completely understand why there wouldn’t be one. I just asked for thoughts on it, and I now agree with the no elbows rule because of "some" of your guys reasonable posts.
    However, there was no reason to personally bash me for the post. If you didn’t like what I wrote and say u wasted your time reading it, then why waste MORE of your time replying to it???

    #20433

    defo
    Member

    ahh most of it is all in good fun..welcome to the fam

    #20434

    just go on espn.com and read the article on wsobp… theres a pic on there of one of the biggest leaners in america…. its not even skill any more its "who can lean further over the table and throw the ball a few inches into the nearest cup"

    #20435

    just go on espn.com and read the article on wsobp… theres a pic on there of one of the biggest leaners in america…. its not even skill any more its "who can lean further over the table and throw the ball a few inches into the nearest cup"

    you are entitled to your own opinion but please, please could you at least make the slightest amount of effort and read prior posts regarding this matter before yammering on about it. i swear this leaning discussion will go on forever!! i know the forum is open for discussion on a wide range of subjects and such but i think i can speak for most when i say ppl do not want to discuss leaning complaints anymore.

    #20436

    slowsen
    Member
    just go on espn.com and read the article on wsobp… theres a pic on there of one of the biggest leaners in america…. its not even skill any more its "who can lean further over the table and throw the ball a few inches into the nearest cup"

    you are entitled to your own opinion but please, please could you at least make the slightest amount of effort and read prior posts regarding this matter before yammering on about it. i swear this leaning discussion will go on forever!! i know the forum is open for discussion on a wide range of subjects and such but i think i can speak for most when i say ppl do not want to discuss leaning complaints anymore.

    there’s no way he’s being serious. in case he’s not…
    1. a shot leaning is easier than a shot not leaning because you are closer to the cups
    2. because you are off balance while leaning you have less coordination when shooting with a lean, which takes away some of the advantage
    3. taller people are closer to the cups than shorter people
    4. taller people are generally less coordinated than shorter people. (since people always bring up basketball, you will never see David Robinson or Hakeem (two of the most coordinated 7 footers to ever play) do anything with a basketball that a marginal 6 footer couldn’t do. So the extra inch or two doesn’t really add up to a ton of advantage
    5. there wasn’t a 410 way tie for first place, so obviously everyone isn’t just "dropping it in with that lean"
    6. this is a different game than you play in your frat house, basement, house party or whatever.
    7. Yes a a bounced shot counting for two when swatting is allowed is a lot more fun to play than no defense and a bounce counting for one cup. however, see rule 6, this is not the same game. while more fun, that has nothing to do with skill.
    8. Same goes for 2 balls in the same cup= some sort of big deal. Compared to the top 50 teams in the tournament, me and my teammate suck. We probably shoot somewhere in the 40′s for percentage. However, we can both hit the head cup on a 10 rack about 75% of the time and the head cup on a 6 rack about 65% of the time. Both of us hitting the same cup doesn’t mean shit
    9. I don’t really know where this is going
    10. If you added an elbow rule, all you do is push EVERYONE back a few inches. There’s no way that the people who were good closer won’t be the same people who are good farther. Again, to bring up basketball, the best free throw shooters also tend to be the best three point shooters. So more than likely, if you push everyone back a bit you’re going to have the same people winning.
    11. Beerpong is not the same as poker. In the World Series of Poker anyone can win. Everyone knows about 5 douches who watched the world series, started reading poker books and all of a sudden wins money at indian casino’s and bitches about bad beats and being able to read people non-stop. Beer pong is not that simple. The team that won seems to do nothing but play. It seems like 3 tourney’s a week was the norm. Plus Ron Hamilton posted his training schedule on here before and that was ridiculous as well. If you’re new, you can see from the posts that there’s a lot of discussion about how to change the format so the best team wins every year, however, unlike poker there are no scrub teams that make the top 16. ever. good teams get hot, great teams get cold, but no one has gone on any of these message boards and talked about some shit team making it deep. I have officially derailed and have no idea what i’m talking about anymore

    #20437

    skinny
    Member

    Slowsen: That was a thoroughly enjoyable read. Thank you.

    #20438

    dam_o_nation
    Member

    Ah, the old mantra of the uninitiated: "Leaning is gay."

    Maybe it is, but there is a far gayer thing out there, and that is called "elbow rule." The last 3 or 4 times I have played elbow rule at a party or bar, it has turned into a bunch of people constantly yelling, "Watch your elbow!" or "You broke the plane!" While the elbow rule sounds good in principle, in practice it just leads to arguments and makes the game a shit show (the bad kind).

    There was an incident this past weekend that I will relate to you which, even though it’s sort of funny, makes me not want to have any part of an elbow rule game again. So my girlfriend and I were playing some beirut at a bar in San Francisco with a bunch of friends. There was no elbow rule in effect but it was understood that nobody would lean too much. After we run the table for 7 or 8 games, these two random girls call next, and once they get on the table they inform us that we will be playing with strict elbow rule enforcement. I just wanted to get it over with so I agreed. As we took the lead, the "Watch your elbow!" cries from their side grew more and more intense, eventually leading one of the girls to come over to our side and give us a lesson on how to properly space ourselves from the table edge to avoid elbow violations.

    Finally at one point I guess they’d had it with our 1-inch elbow violations, and when my girlfriend hit a cup they moved it to the side…and then moved it back, deciding that it didn’t count. We argued for a minute or so, until finally I decided it was just time to get these skanks (who were not much to look at BTW) off the table and I went over and moved the cup that had been hit myself. The girls obviously took offense to this, and one of them responded by throwing several cups of beer at me while the other ran to the other side of the table to do the same to my girlfriend. I just stood there and didn’t respond, but my girlfriend and her attacker got into an all-out beer brawl with beer, cups, and pitchers flying at each other. Needless to say, they threw all of our beer-soaked asses out of the bar and we didn’t get to play any more that night.

    Now THAT is gay. BTW I apologize if anyone reading this is an actual homosexual – I don’t mean "gay" in that way.

    #20439

    slowsen
    Member

    Slowsen: That was a thoroughly enjoyable read. Thank you.

    thanks, i got a little fired up there

    #20440

    GSP
    Member

    Ah, the old mantra of the uninitiated: "Leaning is gay."

    Maybe it is, but there is a far gayer thing out there, and that is called "elbow rule." The last 3 or 4 times I have played elbow rule at a party or bar, it has turned into a bunch of people constantly yelling, "Watch your elbow!" or "You broke the plane!" While the elbow rule sounds good in principle, in practice it just leads to arguments and makes the game a shit show (the bad kind).

    There was an incident this past weekend that I will relate to you which, even though it’s sort of funny, makes me not want to have any part of an elbow rule game again. So my girlfriend and I were playing some beirut at a bar in San Francisco with a bunch of friends. There was no elbow rule in effect but it was understood that nobody would lean too much. After we run the table for 7 or 8 games, these two random girls call next, and once they get on the table they inform us that we will be playing with strict elbow rule enforcement. I just wanted to get it over with so I agreed. As we took the lead, the "Watch your elbow!" cries from their side grew more and more intense, eventually leading one of the girls to come over to our side and give us a lesson on how to properly space ourselves from the table edge to avoid elbow violations.

    Finally at one point I guess they’d had it with our 1-inch elbow violations, and when my girlfriend hit a cup they moved it to the side…and then moved it back, deciding that it didn’t count. We argued for a minute or so, until finally I decided it was just time to get these skanks (who were not much to look at BTW) off the table and I went over and moved the cup that had been hit myself. The girls obviously took offense to this, and one of them responded by throwing several cups of beer at me while the other ran to the other side of the table to do the same to my girlfriend. I just stood there and didn’t respond, but my girlfriend and her attacker got into an all-out beer brawl with beer, cups, and pitchers flying at each other. Needless to say, they threw all of our beer-soaked asses out of the bar and we didn’t get to play any more that night.

    Now THAT is gay. BTW I apologize if anyone reading this is an actual homosexual – I don’t mean "gay" in that way.

    ahhhh great story…. my girlfiend, her brother would try to call elbow on me all the time. most of the time just to fuck with me and get in my head….but then my girlfriend (brothers biggest fan) and other people started jumping on his band wagon and started talking shit saying that my elbow kept passing…..so i started showing that my elbow wouldnt cross before i shot and then i held my arm out after i shot to prove that i wasnt crossing…..didnt matter, they still gave me shit….so i took a couple steps back, played hand rule on em and whooped all their ass’…..

    Side note…..i’ll play any one who says leaning is gay in 100$ cash games, with your precious elbow rule…..shit, i wont let my hand cross the table and ill still smash you…..fuck everything i just said, i let u lean (u know cuz its so easy, u can just drop the ball in the cup) and ill play hand…and when i hand u ur ass, i want you to get on this thread and ttype a thousand times "I will not criticize the lean, I will not criticize the lean, I will not criticize the lean, I will not criticize the lean, I will not criticize the lean, ……"

    #20441

    ganjafarmer
    Member

    Leaning is for people who cant shoot a ping pong ball in a cup…. period. They dont shoot from behind the table cause if they tried they would miss a lot more then when they lean. Leaning takes skill out of the shots. WSOBP should consider making leaning illegal. Instead of the elbow rule that you "leaners" cry about. They should enforce the head behind the table. That rule would not be hard to enforce, and now everyone has the same distance to shoot from. otherwise tall people are going to be ruling this sport in the future. Think about it, how hard is it to toss a ball from your hand when the cup is just a foot away…..no skill…. and sports are all about skill. so how can this be a sport when it envolves who has a longer reach, and not who has the best shot?

    #20442

    bizness
    Member

    Leaning is for people who cant shoot a ping pong ball in a cup…. period. They dont shoot from behind the table cause if they tried they would miss a lot more then when they lean. Leaning takes skill out of the shots. WSOBP should consider making leaning illegal. Instead of the elbow rule that you "leaners" cry about. They should enforce the head behind the table. That rule would not be hard to enforce, and now everyone has the same distance to shoot from. otherwise tall people are going to be ruling this sport in the future. Think about it, how hard is it to toss a ball from your hand when the cup is just a foot away…..no skill…. and sports are all about skill. so how can this be a sport when it envolves who has a longer reach, and not who has the best shot?

    D.O.E. does NOT approve this message.

    Please refer to all the other threads where horrible "players" like yourself making these infantile arguments are ripped to shreds.

    #20443

    welch
    Member

    The only person in the world who has a reason to complain about leaning is Danny DeVito. He’s short as fuck and has a reason to complain. As for everyone else, get on board with WSOBP rules or shut the fuck up

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