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sfoster
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    Posted: Jan 6th, 03:03 am
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  • MD was definitely underrepesented this year.
    I think a big part of it was the fact that we all played against each other, but in spite of that it's still disappointing to see we only had one team in the top 10 and none in the top 5.
     
    NY vs NY in the finals!
    This is a sobering wake up call for change.
     
    I've tried for the world series 3x now and barely made a dent.
    I've tried for the 2v2 MD state championships 4x and still haven't won.
     
    I know I can do better than that, and after many years in a row it becomes increasingly frustrating to sit on the sidelines and watch other teams compete when I know I should be in there playing. Sometimes I've faulted myself and sometimes I've faulted my various partners, but what it comes down to is that this is a team game and you need a dominant team to win.
     
    I put a lot of time into this game, continue to improve steadily every year, and I want somebody else who is as serious and self-motivated about winning as I am. Hey - maybe nobody else is that obsessed, (and thats okay) but I'd like to play some of our local MD tourneys with a few different people just to see how it plays out.
     
    I don't know what I am doing for the MD state championships or the WS 5.
     
    Some of the people I have in mind are durke, rob d, bunky, larry, and austin.
    Just throwing out a few names of people who can consistently rival me as players on the table. (no offense if I forgot anyone, it's late and been a long 2 days)
     
    I'm not trying to be a home wrecker and break up any teams, but I don't know what your guys plans are for the next year. If anybody else is looking to mix things up a bit, or won't have their partner going next year then shoot me a message and maybe we can see how well the combination smashes a MD tourney.
     
    In the real world idealism doesn't get you very far, and winning is often a hard thing that requires making sacrifices. So it's nothing personal toward anybody that I decline to play with for the next world series. This isn't about friendship or personal feelings it's just business and I'm not getting any younger. I don't like the idea that I may never win.
     
    MD is better, and we can do better. I am considering some out of state partners as well, but obviously all things being equal it's more ideal to have somebody local I can prepare with.
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imunk0wn2u
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    Posted: Jan 6th, 04:49 am
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  • If only you lived in NY Foster - I'm in the same boat. There are many many good players in NY, and the problem is, many of them already have a consistent partner that they play with. I finally found a partner who was as obsessed with it as me and had a desire to win and we started getting better and better as time went on, but now he leaves for Hawaii this week and I'm stuck searching again. All my friends love the game but not serious enough to travel and pay for tournaments. Me, I'm willing to travel by and far almost it seems, having hit up long island, jersey, philly, upstate ny, connecticut, and hopefully soon mass. and MD. - Just need to find that partner that has the same desire to win and dominate that you have, and to find teams like Ron and Pop, Neal and Tone, all that just want one thing. Unfortuantely, i too am having trouble finding that person that takes it at serisously as me.
sfoster
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    Posted: Jan 6th, 11:56 pm
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  • sorry imunk, what was your team name again?
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jizzil24
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    Posted: Jan 7th, 02:54 am
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  • Yo wuzp s foster. im Talk to you about this subject. i found you on mdbeerpongs myspace. peace
juzam139
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    Posted: Jan 7th, 03:02 am
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  • Foster, I feel your pain.  I mean every year the expectations are just as high and if you don't get like top 5, it's a disappointment.  But with more teams and more rounds each and every year,  it will take that perfect storm of ingredients to win.  If you're having that one off game, is the other team shooting lights out?  Are you shooting 70% and the other team happens to knock out 10 in a row against you?  Or as was the case this year, what kind of draw plays a role.  
     
    It sucks you had to play Team Miller Time so early in that 64 tourney, but that was the draw.  We had to play Wet Ballz.  Dixie Normous had to play Get Mitch or Die Tryin early on.  All of us are solid teams, but that's the luck of the draw.  I think I read on here that last year some team went 4-8 and then this year they went 16-5 or something like that?  I bet that it's not that they were off that off last year or just that good this year.  But the luck of the draw of the team you play sometimes as well as the right set of circumstances that I mentioned above is the most important thing.
     
    What if a fringles all girl team made the 64 team tournament and you played them instead of Team Miller Time.  Chances are you win that game and then you hope someone knocks out the rest of the good teams so you can cruise to victory.  
     
    I feel like you probably have done a ton to become a better player and O'hare is solid player too.  I think heading into any tournament, as long as you have a solid partner who plays well consistently and you have confidence in them to be able to knock out 6 in a row, then you gotta shot at winning and sometimes that is all you can ask for.  While I am not at all ok with settling for second, sometimes given the circumstances, all you can ask for is a shot at winning each game and capitalizing on those opportunities.
     
    I look forward to playing against you in the upcoming year with whoever you play with as well as the rest of the MDbeerpong guys because it will make us that much better and as Jeff Barnes said, will make us more "tournament tested" than the rest of the teams out there.  So when next year rolls around, the final 10 teams will be 8 MDbeerpong teams.  Then we would be overrepresented if there is such a thing, haha.  
sfoster
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    Posted: Jan 7th, 03:10 am
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  • Paul I'm not here to throw anybody under the bus, but I will say that I shot lights out on day 3.
    Shawn^2 gave it a shot, and O'Hare is a good player but he had a bad day.
     
    If he had one of his good days I'm sure we would have gone much further, and maybe even won. It was also very discouraging to see that he went 0-2 in both of our state championships without me.
     
    The fact is just that it's been a long number of years and it's still not working for us as a team when it comes to the big tournaments.
     
    I was asked by both ron and pop to play with them this past year for the world series.
    No telling what would have happened if I were on their team but I am a seasoned player after all these years, tournament tested under pressure, and I certainly hit a lot of cups.
     
    I am only going to get better for the WS V.
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jeffbarnes
Joined: Jan 1st 1991, 12:00 am

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    Posted: Jan 7th, 10:28 am
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  • "sfoster"
    MD was definitely underrepesented this year.
    I think a big part of it was the fact that we all played against each other, but in spite of that it's still disappointing to see we only had one team in the top 10 and none in the top 5.
     
    NY vs NY in the finals!
    This is a sobering wake up call for change.
     
    I've tried for the world series 3x now and barely made a dent.
    I've tried for the 2v2 MD state championships 4x and still haven't won.
     
    I know I can do better than that, and after many years in a row it becomes increasingly frustrating to sit on the sidelines and watch other teams compete when I know I should be in there playing. Sometimes I've faulted myself and sometimes I've faulted my various partners, but what it comes down to is that this is a team game and you need a dominant team to win.
     
    I put a lot of time into this game, continue to improve steadily every year, and I want somebody else who is as serious and self-motivated about winning as I am. Hey - maybe nobody else is that obsessed, (and thats okay) but I'd like to play some of our local MD tourneys with a few different people just to see how it plays out.
     
    I don't know what I am doing for the MD state championships or the WS 5.
     
    Some of the people I have in mind are durke, rob d, bunky, larry, and austin.
    Just throwing out a few names of people who can consistently rival me as players on the table. (no offense if I forgot anyone, it's late and been a long 2 days)
     
    I'm not trying to be a home wrecker and break up any teams, but I don't know what your guys plans are for the next year. If anybody else is looking to mix things up a bit, or won't have their partner going next year then shoot me a message and maybe we can see how well the combination smashes a MD tourney.
     
    In the real world idealism doesn't get you very far, and winning is often a hard thing that requires making sacrifices. So it's nothing personal toward anybody that I decline to play with for the next world series. This isn't about friendship or personal feelings it's just business and I'm not getting any younger. I don't like the idea that I may never win.
     
    MD is better, and we can do better. I am considering some out of state partners as well, but obviously all things being equal it's more ideal to have somebody local I can prepare with.

    I think it will be good for you to come out to more tournaments this year. It's definitely not the same caliber of competition it once was. There are a lot more good players these days, people that you have never heard of. I think it will also be good for you to get that extra tournament experience under your belt (not that you haven't played enough).
     
    I think that MD started off strong, with 2 of our teams placing in the top 3 during the East/West (us and Team Miller Time) and then with 12 of 15 making final day. Just sucks that four of our teams had to play each other going into the final tournament and then everyone else having to play each other later on.
onlyecu4me
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    Posted: Jan 7th, 04:13 pm
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  • It sucks you had to play Team Miller Time so early in that 64 tourney, but that was the draw.  We had to play Wet Ballz.  Dixie Normous had to play Get Mitch or Die Tryin early on.  All of us are solid teams, but that's the luck of the draw.  I think I read on here that last year some team went 4-8 and then this year they went 16-5 or something like that?  I bet that it's not that they were off that off last year or just that good this year.  But the luck of the draw of the team you play sometimes as well as the right set of circumstances that I mentioned above is the most important thing.
     

     
    My team, No Quarter, was the team that was 4-8 last year and ended up 16-2 this year.  We actually were that off last year lol.  We actually didn't know going into the tournament that leaning was allowed and didn't think changing our shot at the last second would help.   That was our mistake and I definitely prefer being able to lean over the table now.  Our schedule was not a cupcake like some might want to believe when they see we went 16-2 this year finishing in the top 10 somewhere.  We beat CTFK twice, once giving them their only prelim loss on the featured table while we went undefeated thru the prelims, then beat them again to knock them out of the tournament, we also beat Wet Ballz in the finals(which I believe knocked them out as well).  I have to look at the final bracket but other teams we faced(beat) had great records this year.  Just thought I'd throw that out there.
     
    No Quarter
prusch
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    Posted: Jan 7th, 07:00 pm
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  • "onlyecu4me"
    We beat CTFK twice, once giving them their only prelim loss on the featured table while we went undefeated thru the prelims, then beat them again to knock them out of the tournament

    Don't want to knock your wins.  You guys deserve credit where it's due.  A 12-0 prelims record is impressive no matter who those games are against.  And backing that up with a bunch of wins in the tournament helps validate that 12-0 record.  
     
    At the same time, I would not brag too much about beating chauffeuring the fat kid in that one game on the featured table.  They were both visibly hammered.  Chauffeur shook it off a little, but I'm not sure if Fat Kid even knew what was going on at that point in the day.
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    Posted: Jan 7th, 10:43 pm
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  • "prusch"
    "onlyecu4me"
    We beat CTFK twice, once giving them their only prelim loss on the featured table while we went undefeated thru the prelims, then beat them again to knock them out of the tournament

    Don't want to knock your wins.  You guys deserve credit where it's due.  A 12-0 prelims record is impressive no matter who those games are against.  And backing that up with a bunch of wins in the tournament helps validate that 12-0 record.  
     
    At the same time, I would not brag too much about beating chauffeuring the fat kid in that one game on the featured table.  They were both visibly hammered.  Chauffeur shook it off a little, but I'm not sure if Fat Kid even knew what was going on at that point in the day.

    Yeah Peter, they were both smashed, but Fat Kid just kept saying "Yo Baker, don't look into the interview girl's eyes. You'll melt." Haha. It was hilarious. Those guys are the epitome of this game. They just seem to have fun and not give a fuck. Maybe it's cause they already one won? Who knows. But they're good guys and I was surprised they could stand on that last feature table.
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