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sfoster
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    Posted: Jun 15th, 09:46 am
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  • Are extreme distractions poor sportsmanship or a part of the game?
    How does it affect the legitimacy of pong as a sport?
     
    From what I understand about other sports, some heckling is traditionally allowed in but only up to a point. What's your take on things?
     
    MDBeerPong - If it IS a part of the game, and not poor sportsmanship, then why don't we do it?
     
    I see some parallels between this and the elbow rule.
    Pride can prevent people from leaning, but at at certain point you have to accept that other people are going to lean even if you don't. If they lean and you don't, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage. Nobody is ever going to win the world series shooting with an elbow rule.
     
    If you're really hungry to win, you suck it up and level the playing field.
    You start leaning.
     
    "Now, you may feel a slight sting. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride! Pride only hurts, it never helps. Fight through that shit. Cause a year form now, when you're kicking it in the carribean, you're going to say 'Marsellus Wallace was Right'"
     
    MD has a 0% chance of distracting anybody, because we do not try.
    Even if you personally can focus through the distractions and hit all your shots, we're making it easier on NY and NJ by not even ATTEMPTING to take them out out of their game.
     
    Personally I would rather distractions not come into play, but the reality is that they're here and once again MD has come up short. That being said, I know we could have won without distracting, but I can't help feeling it makes the journey more difficult.
     
    I let people take me out of my game in AC, and I didn't shoot like myself.
    I accept that, because acceptance is the first step to recovery and becoming a better player. I handled things fine at the world series this year, and I will work on my focus and handle things fine gain next year too.
     
    Everybody accepts that smashing time is a good team.
    Nobody says they only win because ron screams and jumps around.
wianek
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    Posted: Jun 15th, 10:11 am
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  • Personally, I won't do it unless someone is doing it to me. I was being a huge asshole in our round of 32 match, but Diez and Fredo started it, lol.
     
    Overall, I think it's part of the game and something that makes the game more exciting for spectators. Does it actually have an affect on most players though? Possibly on some players, but I'd like to believe that it doesn't really make a difference for elite players.
dwissbrun2
Joined: Nov 15th 2006, 10:36 pm

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    Posted: Jun 15th, 10:42 am
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  • "sfoster"
    "Now, you may feel a slight sting. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride! Pride only hurts, it never helps. Fight through that shit. Cause a year form now, when you're kicking it in the carribean, you're going to say 'Marsellus Wallace was Right'"

    nice pulp fiction quote
     
    distractions are part of the game.  as a team we don't partake in them and i don't think it puts us at a disadvantage at all.  infact, i believe the distractor can be just as distracted by his own actions, concentrating too much on what to do or say, instead of hitting cups.
     
    there are occasions (recently with troy & lester) and some other times when i may talk some shit or simply wave a hand behind the cups... but i do it because i know it has an effect on those particular opponents - otherwise it doesn't serve much purpose.
bustany2
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    Posted: Jun 15th, 10:43 am
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  • "wianek"
    Personally, I won't do it unless someone is doing it to me. I was being a huge asshole in our round of 32 match, but Diez and Fredo started it, lol.
     
    Overall, I think it's part of the game and something that makes the game more exciting for spectators. Does it actually have an affect on most players though? Possibly on some players, but I'd like to believe that it doesn't really make a difference for elite players.

    Haha Piotr, i dont think you were being an asshole at all. It was pretty hilarious the way you were jumping around. Ive never really been one to say much at all when i am playing but the whole trashing talking bit actually made the tournament a lot of fun. Plus the way the rules were designed, especially shoot til you miss rebuttles, i think teams needed to try and gain any bit of leveraged that they could. It was hard to just sit back and watch someone drain cup after cup.  
austin
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    Posted: Jun 15th, 10:46 am
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  • "wianek"
    Personally, I won't do it unless someone is doing it to me. I was being a huge asshole in our round of 32 match, but Diez and Fredo started it, lol.
     
    Overall, I think it's part of the game and something that makes the game more exciting for spectators. Does it actually have an affect on most players though? Possibly on some players, but I'd like to believe that it doesn't really make a difference for elite players.

    I agree. It really doesn't effect me (semi-elite player) and it actually motivates me to do better.
     
    One thing that can not be tolerated in games is flash photography during games. That is absolutely unacceptable.
     
    WOODSHED!
bustany2
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    Posted: Jun 15th, 10:49 am
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  • Austin,
     
    As the commish of MDBP i think you need to step in and check the evidence. Id love to know if the camera was actually pointed at me, and if so id love to see the infamous picture lol
austin
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    Posted: Jun 15th, 10:55 am
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  • "bustany2"
    Austin,
     
    As the commish of MDBP i think you need to step in and check the evidence. Id love to know if the camera was actually pointed at me, and if so id love to see the infamous picture lol

    Don't worry I will get the picture and I will put post it on this blog.
     
    BTW - Maryland Beer Pong does not condone the use of flash photography as a form of distraction in any way. Any or all pictures taken by Maryland residents are for the sole purpose of capturing memories for use in scrap books or birthday cards. Any other uses are strictly prohibited.
     
mikevit
Joined: Apr 30th 2008, 06:59 am

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    Posted: Jun 15th, 11:04 am
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  • "austin"
    "wianek"
    Personally, I won't do it unless someone is doing it to me. I was being a huge asshole in our round of 32 match, but Diez and Fredo started it, lol.
     
    Overall, I think it's part of the game and something that makes the game more exciting for spectators. Does it actually have an affect on most players though? Possibly on some players, but I'd like to believe that it doesn't really make a difference for elite players.

    I agree. It really doesn't effect me (semi-elite player) and it actually motivates me to do better.
     
    One thing that can not be tolerated in games is flash photography during games. That is absolutely unacceptable.
     
    WOODSHED!

    Austin,
     
    Just being an elite or semi-elite player doesn't make you impervious to distraction.  It depends on the mental make up of the person in question.  Some people (you for example) say they shoot better with distractions.  I think you would agree that you also consider Foster at least a semi elite player.  As amazing as he can shoot, I watched several games (I think the ones he had in mind when he made this post) where he had an opponent yelling and screaming at him and it caused him not to play to the level that he can.  
austin
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    Posted: Jun 15th, 11:28 am
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  • "mikevit"
    Just being an elite or semi-elite player doesn't make you impervious to distraction.  It depends on the mental make up of the person in question.  Some people (you for example) say they shoot better with distractions.  I think you would agree that you also consider Foster at least a semi elite player.  As amazing as he can shoot, I watched several games (I think the ones he had in mind when he made this post) where he had an opponent yelling and screaming at him and it caused him not to play to the level that he can.  

    Yeah I know what he's saying. I really think a world-wide ban on "props" that I think Paul from Hands of God brought up a while back is a good idea.
     
    I was joking about the camera stuff but "flash defense" should definitely be outlawed. I think you should be able to move your hands, jump around (on solid floors), clap, do whatever you want to distract your opponent. But I don't think you should be able to use cups or phones or any of the other props I saw people using as a distraction.
     
    So how about it? Worldwide ban on props?
jeffbarnes
Joined: Jan 1st 1991, 12:00 am

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    Posted: Jun 15th, 11:58 am
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  • "bustany2"
    Austin,
     
    As the commish of MDBP i think you need to step in and check the evidence. Id love to know if the camera was actually pointed at me, and if so id love to see the infamous picture lol

    You looked good man. Definitely got your good side.
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