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prusch
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    Posted: Mar 3rd 2009, 02:02 pm
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  • RJ said that 38s were on the table when you guys played them.  Did you guys use different balls in that game?
loloyopp
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    Posted: Mar 3rd 2009, 02:08 pm
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  • "prusch"
    RJ said that 38s were on the table when you guys played them.  Did you guys use different balls in that game?

    I played on 3 different tables and used 38's all night.
Ecastro715
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    Posted: Mar 3rd 2009, 02:31 pm
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  • "prusch"
    RJ said that 38s were on the table when you guys played them.  Did you guys use different balls in that game?

    I can honestly say I don't remember playing RJ. But talk to Ryan, if you'd like. He used the same 40's I used all night after our first game.
prusch
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    Posted: Mar 3rd 2009, 05:03 pm
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  • Maybe the point for the original poster should be -
    If you've got identical balls out on the tables (even if they are pieces of shit), perhaps you should make all the players play with those balls instead of switching out just 2 of them for one player who complains.
     
    (I still don't get it.  I feel like RJ and Mike know the difference between 38s and 40s.  At least they should.  But if you're saying the 40s were there the majority of the night, then maybe they didn't realize the difference.  That's the only thing that makes sense.  Otherwise someone is lying to me about what happened and it doesn't make any sense to do so about something that has little to no relevance no matter how it went down).
Ecastro715
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    Posted: Mar 3rd 2009, 05:13 pm
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  • "prusch"
    Maybe the point for the original poster should be -
    If you've got identical balls out on the tables (even if they are pieces of shit), perhaps you should make all the players play with those balls instead of switching out just 2 of them for one player who complains.
     
    (I still don't get it.  I feel like RJ and Mike know the difference between 38s and 40s.  At least they should.  But if you're saying the 40s were there the majority of the night, then maybe they didn't realize the difference.  That's the only thing that makes sense.  Otherwise someone is lying to me about what happened and it doesn't make any sense to do so about something that has little to no relevance no matter how it went down).

    My post to the original poster, I said what I meant. Cups, balls, tables, they should all be the same.
     
    I was using those cheap ass balls to play Troy heads up 1 cup before the tournament started. Troy was the one that asked Ronny for a 40mm instead. Then we played our first game. After, I assumed we were the only table that wasn't using the 40's. So of course I was going to ask what's with us using the shitty balls.
     
    I don't know what else to tell you Peter. If you want to talk about it, you have my number. If you and Tyler want to play Ryan and I $150 a head, I'm okay with that too. And you guys can pick the balls.
prusch
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    Posted: Mar 3rd 2009, 06:02 pm
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  • Dude no worries - I'm just trying to figure out if I got lied to or not.
     
    The only things I know are that I used 38s the whole tournament, and knew that if we went into the final game without any sort of practice shot with the 40s - we'd be at a huge disadvantage.  I also knew that everyone else had been using 38s, so it just seemed a little shady.  
     
    If it went down with Troy asking for a 40, then leaving it on the table, then you asking for another one thinking that all the rest of the tables had 40s, then playing your games out - that's one thing.  But how did you play all your games with 40s when you played with 38s against mike and RJ?  That doesn't make sense.  
     
    Me putting up 150 to play you for 150 at this point isn't pointless, but isn't relevant either.  You guys won.  But if you felt that the outcome was not fair and are putting forth the offer some sort of replay, I'd throw up $20 to play for that $150 Well.  But honestly I don't really care about winning that money back as much as I care about knowing what happened, and you guys won fair and square.  As far as choosing balls - you know I hated shooting those 38s... but I played along because that was the standard for the tournament, except that it wasn't.  
     
    Maybe I should just be happy that we didn't have a mix of clear and red cups of different heights on the same racks like what was happening most of the tournament.  
Ecastro715
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    Posted: Mar 3rd 2009, 06:20 pm
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  • I don't even remember playing Mike and RJ, and it's now news to me they played together for that tournament. I'm not saying either of them are lying, they may be right, but I thought everytime I shot a ball after our first game and before it, it was with the 40's. My problem was that I thought you guys wanted to shoot the 38's for an advantage (or as you like to tell me, so Tyler could piss me off). I may be a asshole sometimes but I'm not a liar.
     
    And I'm not stupid either, lol. You know I can't play you $20 vs $150. I don't think the way it went down during the game was unfair. I just wish you guys could've shot with the 38's and us with the 40's for the final game. I don't remember much of the game other than hitting the 2 rack and being force fed the 38 ball for a rollback. Ryan must've killed it.
     
    Speaking of, he was probably way more sober than I was. He would know better than I would what we shot with all tournament long.
     
    I had no idea some cups on some tables were clear and others were red. I probably played with some red cups through-out, and I only remember clear ones.
prusch
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    Posted: Mar 3rd 2009, 06:51 pm
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  • The reason we insisted on playing with the 38s is because we had played with them for the whole tournament (4-5 games), and everyone else had as well.  It only seemed fair that way.  If we switched cold at that point to 40s, with you supposedly having used them for the whole tournament, we'd have been at a major disadvantage (thought I'm thinking we'd have been fine, cause I was awful with the 38s).  We hated shooting with them, but I didn't think any of the other options were fair (us using 38s and you 40s, or us both using 40s).
kobe24
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    Posted: Mar 3rd 2009, 07:24 pm
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  • Not that is matters, but RJ played with Sachi...not Mike. Maybe that will help Castro remember using 38's?
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Joined: Mar 2nd 2009, 07:56 pm

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    Posted: Mar 5th 2009, 05:49 pm
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  • Thank you so much to everyone who gave me the great advice. I will surely try to take in everything you said and put on a solid tournament in the near future.
     
    And when I do, I'll be sure to let you know about it.
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