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dam_O_nation
Joined: Oct 17th 2008, 06:17 pm

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    Posted: Jan 5th 2009, 12:12 am
    Post subject: WSOBP V

  • Only 363 days or so!  Oh yeah!
     
    The early favorite has to be Stanford Beirut.  Our new strategy: don't pull the biggest choke in world history this time (with the exception of the 2004 New York Yankees of course).
     
    See you guys in Vegas.  I'll be the one holding the big check.
     
    Also: NORCAL!!!
juzam139
Joined: Jan 1st 1991, 12:00 am

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    Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 01:56 am
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  • "dam_O_nation"
    Only 363 days or so!  Oh yeah!
     
    The early favorite has to be Stanford Beirut.  Our new strategy: don't pull the biggest choke in world history this time (with the exception of the 2004 New York Yankees of course).
     
    See you guys in Vegas.  I'll be the one holding the big check.
     
    Also: NORCAL!!!

     
    hahahaha, yeah I wouldn't say we choked, just didn't play up to our potential which I'm sure happened to you guys.  We made the third day which was great, but again, we didn't play well so it was a disappointment.  Lookin forward to the WSOB V as well for some redemption and can't wait to see all the footage hopefully on TV.  This year was as big as it got and can't wait for next year's.
domino66
Joined: Nov 11th 2008, 10:59 am

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    Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 05:01 am
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  • Thanks for a very well-run tourney this year guys.  A suggestion for improving the format for next year (which was echoed by nearly everyone we talked to).
     
    For Days 1 and 2, it was really annoying to have 6 separate games, with roughly 50-60 minutes between them.  It was never quite enough time to actually do anything - i.e. sit down and enjoy a leisurely meal, gamble, go back to your room and watch football, etc.  The net effect was that 6 games ended up consuming an entire day from 11am to 6pm or later.
     
    Why couldn't you have all teams have two "sessions" on each of Days 1 and 2, and play 3 consecutive games in each session?  i.e. this year, there were 3 "heats" with teams in each heat playing every hour or so...but why don't you have all of the teams in the first "heat" be on the tables from 11am until 12:30pm, for example, getting in 3 consecutive games.  Then perhaps they could come back for an afternoon session of another 3 games around 3pm to 4:30pm.
     
    I don't know if there are other considerations that went into this year's format (e.g. liability-wise, you couldn't have teams play consecutive games, or maybe the Flamingo WANTED the format structured so that players would have to walk back through the casino 6 times / day, but nearly everyone we talked to agreed that it was annoying to have such a drawn-out format that required all teams to report back to the playing room every hour or so.
dam_O_nation
Joined: Oct 17th 2008, 06:17 pm

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    Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 11:58 am
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  • "domino66"
    I don't know if there are other considerations that went into this year's format (e.g. liability-wise, you couldn't have teams play consecutive games, or maybe the Flamingo WANTED the format structured so that players would have to walk back through the casino 6 times / day, but nearly everyone we talked to agreed that it was annoying to have such a drawn-out format that required all teams to report back to the playing room every hour or so.

    I second that.  I'd much rather play 3 games consecutively.  First of all, having enough time between games to take a decent nap would be awesome.  I mean this shit is already tough enough: you wake up at 10am on 4 hours of drunken sleep, the last thing you want to do is put that damned bottle to your face again, but you do it anyway.  You go down to the tables and one half of you is hitting yourself because you're down to your last cup against a terrible team that went 2-4 the first day, after you smoked that 6-0 team in cash games last night; the other half of you is ready to fall over onto the table from drunkenness or exhaustion or both.  By 1 or 2 all you want to do is get that sleep you should have gotten when you were losing your entire last paycheck on the blackjack tables or talking up those sluts in the bar who turned out to be pros.
     
    Oh yeah, and if you have to ask people at the casino whether they are pros, you might want to think again whether it's a good idea to take them back to your room.  Some of our buddies found that out the hard way yesterday morning.
cobra
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    Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 12:48 pm
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  • This was obviously your first year because this is how its been the past 4 years. Im not gonna go further into this but this tournament isnt about you having fun in vegas or you not getting sleep or any of that stuff. Its about playing beer pong to win 50k.
dam_O_nation
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    Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 02:02 pm
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  • "cobra"
    This was obviously your first year because this is how its been the past 4 years. Im not gonna go further into this but this tournament isnt about you having fun in vegas or you not getting sleep or any of that stuff. Its about playing beer pong to win 50k.

    Yes, it was.  Wanted to go ever since WSOBP I but had other shit to do.  Probably at least partly explains why we performed well in cash games but choked in WSOBP play, especially on the final day.  Whoever told me, "You won't do that well because it is your first year" was a smart man.  The pressure of that big room does do crazy shit with your head when you're not used to it.  Nothing but splashes in the practice room, but nothing but rims when it counts.  Fortunately, much to the dismay of my girlfriend and my entire family who every new year hold on to that small glimmer of hope that I will give up this retarded game and actually make something of my life, you can bet your ass I will be there for WSOBP V.  Look for Stanford Beirut to have extra promo codes for sale once again as we tear through the satellites.
slowsen
Joined: Sep 25th 2007, 04:38 am

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    Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 03:31 pm
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  • "domino66"

    For Days 1 and 2, it was really annoying to have 6 separate games, with roughly 50-60 minutes between them.  It was never quite enough time to actually do anything - i.e. sit down and enjoy a leisurely meal, gamble, go back to your room and watch football, etc.  The net effect was that 6 games ended up consuming an entire day from 11am to 6pm or later.

     
    I've heard it's for liability reasons. Two beers per side and two people per side equals one beer per person per game. If the hosts are only providing one beer per person per hour than they likely wouldn't be liable for anyone getting alcohol poisoning or any other alcohol related problem since the average person burns off one beer per hour
dub
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    Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 04:08 pm
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  • I'll be posting about the whole week soon, but I only have one suggestion for change next year.
     
    The teams in the top 32 aren't really at an advantage by having to sit on the sidelines and watch. I know this is hypocritical, being that at the WSOBPIII, we caught fire ran through teams that might normally beat us, but I do have a suggestion...
     
    The top 32 should automatically play a best 2 out of 3 as their first match. We played a hot team right out of the gate and lost by a cup. Then we were almost immediately on the feature table to play Slippery France and the loser was going home.
     
    I think it's really tough to have a good record the first 2 days. It's really hard on your body and even with 11-1 +34 record, we were done before we knew what the fuck hit us. By the end of the day, I was actually wishing we barely snuck into the final day with a shitty record so we could do what we normally do.Haha.  As soon as I saw Smashing Time lose on the first day, I knew it was bad news for everyone.
prusch
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    Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 05:07 pm
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  • It's been argued that byes aren't a huge advantage, playing against a hot team.  I think it's the only way to make things work out well with the way seeding is handled.  Luckily we snuck through our Round 1 game in 3 OTs... otherwise I'm sure I'd be in the same boat as Baker.  I'm curious to see how many of the top 32 lost their first game (please post the bracket asap skinny).
     
    A few people in our group were discussing how it would be awesome if the play-in rounds could be handled at the end of day 2, so that everyone starts the final tournament on the same level.  Since that would be difficult to set up, I think that there should at least be a break between the play-in rounds and the final tournament.  Not sure how long it should be, but even a half hour would be better than letting teams blindside a team that earned the advantage of having a bye.
     
    Other than that - I'd just argue that teams should learn how to prepare themselves... get drunk if you need to get drunk.  Or just do what Ron does.... get a bottle of jack and eat a box of Cinnamon Life.
solbycolby
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    Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 05:12 pm
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  • I happened to notice that it seemed all the girl guy or girl girl teams were mostly in the group that played in round 1, 4, 7 yada yada....  my team was in the rounds 2, 5, 8 etc... and it was some stiff competition (literally penis joke) all around.  Maybe it was just coincidence that the groups were set that way, but I have a feeling it wasnt truly random picking.  So if it wasn't then I think randomly selected teams all around would be great.
     
    At first I hated the hour in between when I wasnt doing anything and just playing in the practice room but then I realized that gambling in between is a great time killer.  My partner and I would go down and play blackjack in between every round.  It didnt hurt that both of us came up on the winning side most of the time.  It really isnt enough time to lose too much money if you do lose and you can get a couple free drinks.  So Id say try that next year.
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